Hi Paul, Yes there are footboards to add and looking at the sketch no they wouldn't cover up it mistake. I haven't progressed that far as I am still angry with myself over the cockup and seriously thinking about a reprint with the various improvements I have been plotting.
How about trying the solvent that can be used to separate fingers from super glue - acetone / nail varnish remover from a quick tinternet search to see if the parts will separate.
It's ben a while but the noisy one is back. First up Paul asked the question does Acetone unglue superglue. Well to cut a long story short NO, lots of test with different thicknesses of resin and different amounts of super glue, pretty much all failed. The only success was a minimal application of s/glue applied on the edges of resin that worked. So yes I destroyed the Bouch van and printed off new parts. for a new assembly, well success: but when you turn it around oh botty when did that happen! So another reprint needed but at least I know everything fits properly now, such is life. I have also been fiddling with another project I have hand in mind for a while, so a test for Rob P. What's this the chassis of?
Above print, are you adopting the chinese quality control method, don't worry about getting it right, just print an extra copy. Or a 6 wheel brake chassis.
Well it looks like a 6 wheel chassis and there's one that at least 2 years ago Rob said it would be his first Fusion wagon so I deferred. Years later and he is still playing with that Princess (this was going to be his next project) but since he has declared a love of Electric Engines for that NER Electric I felt I could make a start on it. Rob.
Superglue 'Debonder' is available cheaply from the likes of Toolstation and Screwfix, Mossy. (£2.59 for a 20Ml bottle at Toolstation) Keith.
Why not just try it on some scrap parts, glue them together then try and part them with whichever 'debonder' you try, at least you know whether using it on your brake van will be safe. My eyesight isn't that good these days but I can still create items which annoy me being just slightly out of line. Jim
Jim when I tested the acetone I created about 10 different parts, of different thicknesses and used variable amounts of glue to fix them together. I can easily repeat those tests on the debonder.
Rob Not quite a milk van more like a yoghurt pot the running gear mounts onto to this: Now advice please. Richard Lacy's drawings of the V3 brake (NER Express 154) include a separate brake rodding drawing and a plan view of the chassis. The brake gear is shown mounted on a horizontal beam the length of the solebar , but I don't see one on the chassis diagram. There are 2 end beam supports used to beef up drop down end supported designed to buffer up to dumb buffer wagons, surely the breaks weren't bolted to these, if so would there be 1 set of brake gear or 2?
Despite being clueless as to where they hang from on the chassis and what they do, a first punt at the brake pull rods (the final pull rods to the brakes omitted). Anyone got any clues?
Hi Mossy, I have just had a look at the drawing in issue 154 and my interpretation is that they are bolted to the two timbers that run centrally down the van either side of the draw gear. This is only shown on the first third of the drawing because like many GA type drawings it's depicting multiple cross sections through the van. If you have ever built a Parkside kit with 8 shoe brakes they have a similar arrangement of levers. The rod that the brake shoes are fastened to would be bolted to the floor of the wagon. PS. as you have no doubt guessed I had completely forgotten our discussion on the 6 wheeled BV...
Rob, Thanks for confirming what I suspected, that begets another question if there are 2 sets of brake levers either side of the centre line, what connects the brake shoes to them. The other query I have is what are the 3 vertical rods drawn hanging down near the wheel centres. Hopefully you haven't read this yet Rob as there is a third query. On all the clasp braked vans I have drawn or built the brake pull rods are inside the brake shoes, looking at the drawing they appear to be outside the shoes. Am I over thinking this or how the &^%$ does that work?
Hi Mate, Q1 - I am not so sure that there would be two sets of levers either side of the centre line just one set slightly off centre due to the timbers that they are bolted to. Q2 - I think that the vertical rods are a red herring thrown up by the GA trying to show all the details reading GA's is a bit of an art form. I would best guess at them being step board brackets and nothing to do with the brakes. Q3 - There are lots of older locos with external pull rods so although I can't recall a specific example, it would not surprise me if they didn't follow similar practice for a while before brake fittings were more standardised.
Rob Q1 Tick makes a bucket full of sense Q2 Not sure what the... they are, definitely not foot board supports which are clearly shown on the big diagram and in totally the wrong place. As my American ex colleagues would say to anything difficult "Lets leave that one in the parking lot". Q3 External pull rods. I would accept these if they were shown on the Richard Lacy main diagram, they aren't, I also checked in Ian Slaters book which clearly shows external pull rods clearly for the Bouch van but not the V3. I have only found 2-3 photos of V3's and none of them show the brake gear in any detail either. In summary baffled for now. Reading GA's is a bit of an artform! As far as I am concerned you could fill a 3 year degree course on this subject. The 7mm scaled versions are just a spaghetti of lines, I assume the large scaled originals are a bit easier to deal with. Mossy
I'd suspect the shoes would be connected with some form of wishbone / A frame This how I did the HR Brake van
if the diagram is correct (posting 1333) the pull on the shoes is outside the wheel it can be clearly traced in the drawing but then how does that connect up without interfering with the rest of the brake gear. It isn't internal webs, but just doesn't make much sense to me. I am hoping the sage of all things NER Tom Burnham can come up with the goods he's bailed me out of the smelly stuff a number of times. Your brake rig is much more sophisticated than mine, I link the shoes on opposite wheels with an accurately measured (for me) linking plate, the A frames just sit between them. Given my recent ill health, Fusion and the printers have been running at full tilt, 2 more NER Brake vans are pretty much read to make their long delayed appearance.
I can’t fathom the three (or six if we talk both sides) drop “things”. The only thing that crossed my mind is when the fall loops were added below axles to catch any broken brake rigging In a strap or metal square. But I don’t see enough of them in the correct place for them to be that item. however, what are the large semi circular curves at each end?