7mm Narrow Gauge O-16.5

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  1. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    Nice coach kit, nicely painted Ed. The livery reminds me of the Talyllyn Railway narrow gauge coaches.

    Cheers, Gary.
     
  2. ed

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    Can't take the credit Gary as the sides come that colour, although I have painted the ends and roof a darker grey than the original plastic.

    Reminds me a bit of LMS maroon.


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    I've been planning a new small O-16.5 layout and as it will require some buildings, I thought I'd have a go at building something from scratch.

    Never having built anything from scratch before, and me being me and not starting simple, I've been working on a totally non-prototypical engine shed.

    I've drawn some plans in LibreOffice Draw, but these may change as I go along.


    Printed and stuck to 2mm card.


    Then cut out.



    Glued using a bit of Lego to try and get square corners.


    However, using small square bracing pieces inside the walls to try and keep everything square didn't look right, so I removed them and just doubled up the end walls, laminating them together.





    It appears to be square, so I'm now looking at wall coverings.

    I'm really tempted by the Slaters planking for the walls and corrugations for the roof, but this would turn out a bit expensive for something that might end up in the bin.

    I've tried scaling up some Scalescenes Plain Clapboard for the walls, but it doesn't look right, so it might be brick paper.


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    I decided I'd try the Scalescenes clapboard paper anyway and I don't think it looks too bad, even if it is under scale.


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    I once made one from that fibre board and covered it in a wrinkled silver card. Looked like tin sheet. Never did get around to the roof and it was then broken down when we moved house. Based on Hulme Ends curved roof shed on the Leek and Manifold.
     
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    I'm a bit stuck on the roof Andy.

    I've very loosely based this on pictures of the Southwold engine shed from the book 'Branch Line to Southwold' published by Middleton Press.

    I can't reproduce the pictures here due to copyright, and I can't figure out what the roof was made from as the pictures are not that clear.

    Doesn't look to be corrugated, but it must have been some sort of sheet material to make it waterproof :scratchchin:



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  7. Andy_Sollis

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    Not the one here then?

    https://www.sosouthwold.co.uk/blog/2017/12/southwold-railway-steamworks

    As this is a double door with lean to..

    Best thing is look what the others had, if the other buildings were slate, that majority will be that this may also be so, if they are corrugated, again the theme suggests it’s the same, but I accept, that it’s not always the case...
    See what I can find.

    Is it still there or demolished? If not, try google earth.
     
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    Demolished (fell down) years ago Andy.

    Think the station is now the site of the Police and Fire stations.

    There is a picture of it here in the distance, second picture down.

    http://www.southwoldandson.co.uk/site/Station Road/Southwold Railway Station.htm

    Difficult to figure out what the station building roof was as well, although in this (artists impression?) it looks to be corrugated.

    https://www.southwoldrailway.co.uk/history/

    Perhaps I shouldn't realy worry about it and just do some sort of corrugated sheets.


    Ed

    Just noticed the pictures on that last link seem to come up randomly, so you might need to click the links Home, History, Galleries etc. to see the one I'm talking about.
     
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    I've done a screen shot of the station building (think they're tinted postcards).

    If this breaches any copyright can the mods please delete it.



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    A couple of youtube videos if they are any use Ed.





    They have a lot of the same footage but may be of interest.

    Pete.
     
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    Nice little films Pete :thumbup:

    Think I'll invoke 'Rule 1' and use whatever I can find for the roof :avatar:



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    Hi Ed,
    Under legal image ownership rights copyrighting of photographic material expires after 70 years from the date the picture was taken, when you see old postcards in a private collection and it says it is copyrighted under Arts Council England rules the image has to follow that 70 year rule. One cannot copyright someone else's work and copyright doesn't transfer after 70 years, however modern images may well be subject to restriction of ownership/publication because of being under license commercially or for sensitive reasons or the image was taken on non public property. High profile pictures taken by famous photographers such as Manray and worth vast sums are considered "works of art" and fall within laws that protect artwork from forgery, but "snapshot" or posed images taken at the beginning of the last Century of a long obsolete subject by a local publisher using old wet plate equipment is deemed public property now. The reason for this is that there may well be multiples of the same image and one specific owner publishing his image to the web cannot claim copyright Cart Blanche as it were. Hope this helps clarify matters.

    cheers for now York Paul
     
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    Slow progress, but I've added some windows and started on the roof.




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    That's looking good !:scratchchin::thumbs:
     
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    I seem to be continually re-cutting bits of card to get everything to fit, but I suppose that's what comes of trying to build something without any plans or dimensions to hand.

    I also just found out that although the parts I drew in LibreOffice Draw easily fit on a piece of A4 paper, the software had decided to shrink some of the drawings slightly on printing, so the shed isn't actually 250mm long it's 244mm long.

    I only found out when I printed some drawing on a another printer that was set to 'crop (preserve dimensions)', but it's all a bit of a learning process I suppose.

    So, still working on the roof, which is turning into a bit of a marathon :avatar:




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    Slatted air vents for the top? With a long wooden capping strip over them all?

    Looks good. I like the track recessed.
     
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    Just one large vent Andy.

    Maybe when I get better at this, for now just lots of errors, but if you don't try you don't learn.

    At least a loco fits.






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    Is it the shadow or does the loco have a “broken spring” ? It looks like it leans to the right.

    That capping looks good though.
     
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    The engine shed is coming alone quite nicely Ed. :thumbs:

    You probably already know Ed, but this is the method I use to make roof vents...


    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Probably shadow Andy. I took the pictures at a bit of an angle and rotated them slightly in Gimp.

    It's certainly the Autumn Equinox here, dark and raining. Not really photo taking weather :avatar:

    Might try that on another one Gary, but the Southwold shed just had a large vent form what I can make out in the pictures.



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